Ear To The Streets: News on UFC Injury, Former UFC Champion and More
by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 27, 2010 10:01 AM EDT
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I got my ear to the streets and they talking:
- A recent UFC injury was rumored to be due to a cycling accident
- A former UFC champion is unhappy with his camp full of "Yes" men with the feeling they don't work him hard enough and played a direct part in his title loss
- A California State Athletic Commission suspended fighter will NOT appeal his suspension and will in fact appeal the LENGTH of his suspension
- A UFC title holder accused of greasing will NOT change weight classes despite recent speculation. His next few fights will be at 170.
- A recent viral video getting a lot of buzz is rumored to be a part of a marketing scheme by the UFC
- A UFC fighter unhappy with the reported pay in last fight will not be fighting in his next official fight
- One of the largest MMA websites is on the UFC payroll and publishes exclusive content in exchange for positive stories about the UFC
The above statements are rumors and should be taken as such.
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You and who else Nate?
We’re on to you now.
I don’t know who the second to last is (or isn’t!) though. Must’ve missed that story.
"One thing I will never do is I will never say never." -Dana White
I don’t know who the second to last is (or isn’t!) though
Carwin?
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Well I have heard some whispers about a certain site (not the one in the article) as well as a couple others
I mean the MMA “media” is shady, but I only have proof of one.
(this is a reposting of a previous comment edited)
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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 28, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
To be fair, I deleted the original above comment and reposted it with a name redacted as I didn't want it connected with the above article
The information about that aforementioned site isn’t wholly concrete and thus is disingenuous bring them up in the context of this discussion.
the site in the article is 100 percent a Zuffa site.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 28, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Here's What I Don't Get
You also made the decision to delete my comment where I called you out for making baseless accusations and offering unsupported opinions on sites that do great work.
By pulling my comment, you come off having had a change of heart and thought better of your initial comments here, and that isn’t the case. Someone (read: me) called you on your crap and to save face you pulled that comment, which is equally disingenuous.
Either put everything out there and stick to your guns or stop with the tabloid-like posts where you take aim at people, sites and an industry that display far more integrity than you have here.
If you want to call someone out for something, call them out by name and with backing, otherwise you’re just trading in tabloid bullshit…
by E. Spencer Kyte on Oct 28, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Not really.
I deleted my comment (by advisory, definitely not to “save face”, I get “called out” all the time) which mentioned the name of a site. In turn, yours was deleted as well. You have the ability to repost your comment/sentiments (which you have done). .
Like I said in my reply to you (which got deleted when I deleted the original post), the site that I actually mentioned wasn’t anything concrete. Just conversation among a few. Like I said in the beginning, it is not who I was referring to in the post (of which there is some evidence).
As for what I said, it is my opinion that said site works in conjunction with Zuffa in exchange for privileges based on discussion with several other people (varying levels of knowledge). Sounds like what a rumor is to me. If I wanted to report “Such and such site is connected with the UFC” and had strong concrete evidence, I would do so. And it would be a “news” story and not a comment made in a rumors post. Rumors don’t mean you can make something up from nothing and trust that is not the case.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 29, 2010 5:02 AM EDT up reply actions
We all have conversations about situations and relationships within this sport on a daily basis – some of us at levels higher up on the chain than others – but the difference is that many of us (myself included) would never put someone’s business out there as you have, especially not as an unsupported accusations / rumor-mongering.
The bigger problem is that this is the kind of crap that leads to stories about Kimo being dead, and people forming opinions about fighters and companies without basis.
You put the site I work for out here as being on the take, and despite having since retracted it, people remember what you said. That changes the way people look at what we do and what I do. That messes with my money and my reputation, and that’s bullshit.
I hear rumors every day, but I make the professional and ethical decision not to put them out there. If I do, I include my sources, at least in some form.
You did neither, opting to make a claim about a site where you have no actual knowledge about the inner-workings, and that is tabloid, TMZ-style crap.
Why not pick up a phone and chase your story, about the website or anything else you’ve mentioned here? Why not call a fighter and knock out an interview every so often, instead of simply writing opinion pieces 24/7/365 and tossing off accusations at people?
And I don’t want to hear any “I’m just a blogger” retorts either; no matter what you want to call yourself, there is a right way and a wrong way of doing things, and this entire post isn’t right…
As I said before – name names and stick to your guns or quit stirring the pot without proof or identification.
by E. Spencer Kyte on Oct 29, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
The stuff in the article has been verified
Anything not mentioned in the article has not.
It’s simple as that.
Thank you for the “career” advice.
Wait, you’re saying the blog post is “wrong” or the post that mentioned yoru site? Cause those are two different entities. I can understand your emotions about my comment, but the actual blog post? I don’t see it.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 29, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
If everything in the article has been verified and most people know who you’re talking about off the bat, why play cat-and-mouse in the first place? Have the stones to stand by your sources and put the actual information out there, not vague statements that you let people decifer so you can maintain the “I didn’t say that” option… that is how the article itself reads to me.
My problem with the actual post is that I don’t see the value in being vague and just boucning rumours around without any backing. Like I said, if you’ve got scoops, stand with them and support your claims.
And with the comment about the site I work for the same applies. You stated no basis for calling our integrity into question, but away you went, and that happens way too much in this industry.
People take shots at fighters they’ve never bothered to call, opine about situations and stories they’ve never bothered to investigate, and while everyone is allowed to have an opinion and state it freely, there is also an element of responsibility that has to be considered.
I could run out all kinds of pieces about speculation that I’ve heard and match-ups that are in the works, but that isn’t professional to me. Part of what lets me do this job is that I have the trust and faith of the fighters, managers and organizations I work with to keep some potential scoops to myself and be responsible with their words.
Personally, I don’t think enough people do that or even think about those things before they sit behind a keyboard and offer up speculation, criticism and opinions about the sport that gives them a platform to write from in the first place.
by E. Spencer Kyte on Oct 29, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Cripes, you writers and your blocks of text
Did it REALLY require a block of text?
If everything in the article has been verified and most people know who you’re talking about off the bat, why play cat-and-mouse in the first place? Have the stones to stand by your sources and put the actual information out there, not vague statements that you let people decifer so you can maintain the "I didn’t say that" option… that is how the article itself reads to me.
The point WAS so people would speculate. There was no news broken in these rumors. It’s all shit people already know.
My problem with the actual post is that I don’t see the value in being vague and just boucning rumours around without any backing. Like I said, if you’ve got scoops, stand with them and support your claims.
You don’t see the point? That’s great Mr. I thought it’d be funny to write shit people already knew and do it just vague enough to watch them speculate. These aren’t scoops. It’s shit you already know (with the exception of the 3rd one).
As for the rest? Give me a break and spare me the writer ethics BS. If it hadn’t have been the name of your site that I wrote, you wouldn’t be giving this impassioned speech. Like I said, the whole article is just facts written up as “rumors”.
The fighters, managers and org people I’ve talked with have the utmost confidence in my work. But thank you for the “career” advice.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 29, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Even If You Didn't Name Drop Heavy...
I’d be saying the same things.
Does it help that you threw me and my colleagues under the bus? Of course, but even if you were slagging another site, I’d call you on it. You can’t just make claims about people / sites / whatever without something to back it up…
It shows a lack of intergrity in my opinion (one that people seem to share from the recs of my comments) and there is way too much of that in this business if you ask me.
by E. Spencer Kyte on Nov 2, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
i agree with Spencer
so in the spirit of what you said. . . i"m calling out you E. Spencer Kyte for being a horrible writer of anything MMA. My backing is everything you have ever written for WKR.
now please go back to Heavy
by jackmerridew on Oct 29, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d love to know what makes me so horrible, Jack? I haven’t written here at WKR for over a year, and in that time I’ve become a featured writer at one of the best sites in the business…
That said, everyone has their favorites and things they like and don’t like. I’d legitimately like to know what I do / say that makes you dislike me so…
by E. Spencer Kyte on Nov 2, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Cycling like lance armstrong or cycling like lance armstrong?
by jackmerridew on Oct 27, 2010 12:02 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
ha ha ha
Honestly – very funny!
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by outlander78 on Oct 27, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I used cycling on purpose
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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 27, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
1) not sure
2) BJ Penn?
3) Chael Sonnen?
4) GSP?
5) not sure
6) Shane Carwin?
7) watch kalib run?
by bigkahunaburger on Oct 27, 2010 3:39 PM EDT reply actions
So
is this a Middle Easy Sunday Morning Rumor Mill rip off type deal except without usage of names?
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
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I dunno what they do
I don’t read other sites besides BE and a couple others.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 28, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, that’s pretty much exactly what this is. But they use names.
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by Geno Mrosko on Oct 29, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Everytime i mention names on this site, trouble comes around
I don’t want to look like I’m “jocking” someone else’s gimmick, so I don’t think this will be ongoing.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 29, 2010 5:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Site’s on Zuffa’s payroll, AFAIK:
-Yahoo
-MMA.tv
-MMA Weekly
Site’s Possibly on Zuffa’s Payroll:
-MMAFighting
-MMAJunkie
After Ariel’s exclusive story 1 hour prior to the official announcement, I’d venture to say that MMAFighting is exclusively on the Zuffa payroll. Especially considering rumor #5. Not to mention he does stuff for VS. and the UFC’s sometimes preshow on Ustream.
I was thinking the exact same thing
Especially considering that Ariel manages to get an exclusive interview with Dana at every single event he attends. Who else has that kind of track record? Nobody that I know of. Cofield did for a bit there, until he pissed of Dana. In terms of pre-fight press, I can’t think of anybody else who gets one-on-one interviews with Dana, ever. This is excluding the mainstream media stuff like ESPN and magazines and shit, of course.
by CaliforniaCreamPuff on Oct 28, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
in reference to #5, how does this help ufc? it seems like its detracting away from cains victory.
brock lesnar is my hero and the lions are my favorite team does that make me a loser?
by DetroitDrew1980 on Oct 28, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
i could understand that on a ppv with low buys, but this is projecting over a million and you've got a knew HW champ who just dethroned the biggest star in the sport, is it really the right time to pull a stunt like this?
The timing couldnt be better for wwe, but it just seems like its taken away from the discussion we would be having as opposed to adding to it…
brock lesnar is my hero and the lions are my favorite team does that make me a loser?
by DetroitDrew1980 on Oct 28, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
is Brock pulling a Miguel Torres and blaming the guys he picked for not getting on his bad side and telling the champ what he didnt want to hear. you build your own training facility…you get what happened. period.
it wasn’t yes men, it was brock not wanting to get hit in the face that cost him the title.
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by theworldsoldestsport on Oct 28, 2010 12:17 PM EDT reply actions
is it about brock or bj?
brock lesnar is my hero and the lions are my favorite team does that make me a loser?
by DetroitDrew1980 on Oct 28, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Who said I was talkin bout Lesnar?
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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 28, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
its about both of them and penn will surely lose to matt hughes
at least with hughes you know he will train and put on his best performance. penn will quit like he did vs edgar. i can’t put a dime on anyone who would quit in a mma fight. i hope they cut penn after his loss to hughes just like they did to cote and gonzaga.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 28, 2010 6:41 PM EDT reply actions
If Penn loses to Hughes, I’m going to laugh until I cry.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Oct 28, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
i know one thing. hughes will come prepared and will give it his all. i really don't know if i'll get even 90% out of penn
my money is on hughes.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 29, 2010 3:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Because it's funny to watch people speculate
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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 31, 2010 5:40 AM EDT up reply actions
