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Jay Hieron: Should he stay or should he go?

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After Jay Hieron defeated Joe Riggs at Strikeforce: Miami most observers believed that Strikeforce would move forward with Hieron as the number one contender for their newly crowned welterweight champion. After all, when Jay signed with Strikeforce he was promised a title shot. But then Scott Coker threw a monkey wrench into the plan when he told Michael David Smith that he wants Hayoto Sakurai, not Jay Hieron, to fight Nick Diaz next. The plot thickened when Hieron confirmed that his fight with Riggs completed his Strikeforce contract and that he is now a free agent.

The revelation of Jay's contract status certainly explained why Coker publicly, if not yet officially, passed over Hieron to fight Diaz next. Why would any person give that kind of explicit leverage to someone you are potentially entering negotiations with?

Now there is a difficult choice facing Jay Hieron; should he try to re-sign with Strikeforce or attempt to close a deal with the UFC?

Like the famous song by The Clash if Hieron stays there will be trouble, if he goes it will be double. Actually, in this case it might be the other way around. But here is WKR's attempt to argue for both sides of the decision.

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The case to go

Strikeforce has mishandled Jay Hieron from the beginning. Granted, Hieron's management bears some of the blame when they turned down a title fight against Marius Zaromskis but that doesn't change the overall impression that Strikeforce epically failed with their handling of Hieron.

The latest example comes courtesy of Matt Hughes' comments about Strikeforce. Hughes, who is never one to mince words about Strikeforce, told Cage Writer that it took three hours for someone to come and stitch up Hieron's wounds after his fight with Riggs. Of course, this is more on the athletic commission for not having enough medical staff on site but Hughes also talks about the difference in atmosphere compared to the Zuffa family.

It's not just treatment from the promotion that will make Hieron want to leave--it is the lack of opponents.

Entering the UFC, even if at a pay-cut, will ensure that Hieron will compete in meaningful fights and as we saw with Paul Daley the UFC really needs welterweight challengers. All it could take is two impressive victories to translate into a title shot.

The case to stay

Strikeforce is going to need welterweights and will soon run out of DREAM fighters to fight Nick Diaz --after Sakurai who is left? Ryo Chonan, Akihiro Gono and that's about it-- so Hieron will have more leverage in his negotiations with Strikeforce than the UFC. Plus, there is the added bonus of getting on CBS to build up one's brand.

Besides, WKR isn't so sure if Hieron tries to sign with the UFC they will offer him what he makes now. Granted the UFC did swoop in to sign the aged Phil Baroni for more money then Strikeforce was willing to pay. But even if Zuffa does pony up the cash, Hieron could easily fall prey to the meat grinder of the UFC's 170lbs. division by losing three of four fights and find himself out of a job. Then he is right back where he started, on the outside looking in.

With uncertain prospects in the UFC (well, potentially more uncertain than Strikeforce) it might behoove Hieron to stay in Showtime's promotion.

Basically the choice before Hieron is to stay in Strikeforce and try to become the big fish in a small pond or head to the ocean and potentially get eaten by the sharks.

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He should go

1. Underappreciated by his promotion
2. Will likely not get a title shot
3. Is virtually unknown since SF refuses to put him on a main card
4. SF is much interested in B-level movie actors, pro wrestlers, and 47yr old athletes than to give him the time of day

There is no reason to stay. Hieron is ready to fight the best again and he is wasting his time in SF. When Mach is your next challenger for a belt, you are not a big fish in a little pond, its more like a puddle.

by BobOBuilder on Feb 1, 2010 3:54 PM EST reply actions  

If I were Hieron

I’d say fuck Strikeforce. Not only did he not get his promised title shot (only reason he went to SF), he was put on the undercard twice. Seriously?

by Excelsior! on Feb 1, 2010 4:04 PM EST reply actions  

Not only did he not get his promised title shot

remember they did offer him a title shot that he turned down. He didn’t get his title fight with Nick Diaz but yeah, I think he is going to bail

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by Zak Woods on Feb 1, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

They offered him Zaromskis, but from my conversation with him, it wasn’t a title fight. It was just Zaromskis, and he turned it down in hopes of getting Diaz.

I’ll have more to say when I get back from work…

by E. Spencer Kyte on Feb 1, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

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by Zak Woods on Feb 1, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

i think he should stay.

yea hes getting the shaft over and over again by SF but its better than what hes going to get in the ufc. he most certainly will not get another shot at gsp. he’ll get some fights in the ufc but i dont think they are winnable against most top welterweights there like, fitch, alves, almedia, kos, rumble, etc.

if he stays in SF he has the diaz fight and the opportunity to go to japan and fight in dream where he has some nice fights vs mach, marius, etc.

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by sonofapsycho on Feb 1, 2010 4:08 PM EST reply actions  

It’s a tough situation. To me, it’s not so much that Strikeforce is overlooking him for a title shot. It’s that they are overlooking him for a title shot in favor of a guy who’s lost two straight. Sakurai’s also 3-3 in his last six fights with his victories coming over a natural lightweight (Aoki) and guys with less than stellar records. His losses have come to Zaromskis (just got owned by Diaz), Gono (who is respectable and better than his record) and Dave Baron (who’s now fighting in the UFC as a lightweight) . Now he’s a number one contender, albeit in a very light field of competitors. That doesn’t even happen in the corrupt sport of professional boxing. Personally, I think Jay Hieron is just barely a top twenty welterweight at this time. But, if think about it, there’s 18 UFC welterweights above him and Nick Diaz. So, he’s the second best welterweight outside of the UFC. Unless Shields drops back down and wrecks everyone. Which won’t happen since Jake’s going to shock the world this spring (but that’s another story for another time). Bottom line, he definitely was not treated fairly by Strikeforce.

Thing is, if he goes to the UFC, where he has a 0-2 record with one of those losses being to Jonathan Goulet, who is near the bottom of the Welterweight ladder. In the UFC, I don’t see his first fight or two making it onto TV unless he was being served up to someone Sodollah, which would be an interesting fight. He’ll probably get paid more but he will have earn his way to the top on a much longer road. The upside is, if he upsets a major name, he could be hotshotted into some big money fights. Look at Semtex and Hardy. They made the most of opportunities where they meant to be cannon fodder. Hieron could certainly do the same. He ends up a last minute replacement and knocks off a Koscheck or a Swick, and he’ll be fast-tracked.

In the end, though, Hieron’s best bet is Bellator. If he wins a tournament against seven unknown, it’s $175,000. Plus, he’d be comfortably favored over an untested Lyman Good. It’s a win-win.

by Steve W on Feb 1, 2010 6:09 PM EST reply actions  

I never did, and still don’t understand all the fuss over Jay Hieron. My reaction to him is indifferent. Can anyone explain to me why I should be excited to see him face Diaz or go to the UFC?

by Norm78 on Feb 1, 2010 6:43 PM EST reply actions  

Personally I’m bored stiff watching the guy fight so I could care less about where he ends up.

I do have to thank him for being such an awesome part of GSP’s highlight reel though. Him getting straight dropped to his knees by that vicious right hand is one of my all-time favorites :)

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by Nick Becker on Feb 2, 2010 2:51 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

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