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Cro Cop: Worse fanboys than Apple fanboys?

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Promoted to the Front Page by Zak Woods to prove that he's not an unabashed fanboy (he is).

Cro Cop fanboys: worse fanboys than Apple.

 Win Anthony Perosh TKO (Doctor Stoppage) 2/20/2010 2 5:00
Loss Junior dos Santos Submission (Punch)   9/19/2009 3 2:00
 Win Mostapha Al-Turk TKO (Punches)   6/13/2009 1 3:06
 Win Hong Man Choi TKO (Low Kick)   12/31/2008 1 6:32
 NC Alistair Overeem No Contest (Knee to the Groin)   9/23/2008 1 N/A
 Win Tatsuya Mizuno TKO (Punches)   3/15/2008 1 0:56
 Loss Cheick Kongo Decision (Unanimous)   9/8/2007 3 5:00
 Loss Gabriel Gonzaga KO (Head Kick)   4/21/2007 1 4:51
 Win Eddie Sanchez TKO (Punches)   2/3/2007 1 4:33

Star-divide

 

  • Cro Cop has not beaten a top ten ranked opponent since 2006 (ranked then or now). That's 4 years!
  • Cro Cop has had at least 4 knee surgeries (that we know about). at least 2 of these have been since Gabriel Gonzaga.
  • Cro Cop is a southpaw fighter. His right leg is the closest to his opponent. And most open to leg kicks from an orthodox fighter. This knee has had surgery at least 2 times.
  •  Cro Cop has success when he corners people and throw power shots at them. Rings have 4 corners. Octagons have 8. This makes it at least twice as hard to corner someone.
  • Cro Cop does not like fighting off his back foot. He received red cards against Mark Hunt and Fedor Emelianenko for stalling. This happened when he was pressured and moved into the later rounds of the fight.
  • Roberto Duran never lived down "No Mas," GSP received a criticism for tapping to strikes, Jamie Yager was the butt of endless jokes for not getting off his stool, Cro Cop quit mid fight against Junior Dos Santos, while standing.
  • Pat Barry is a orthodox fighter. His right leg is his power leg.
  • Pat Barry has not been knocked out in professional fight.
  • Cro Cop has been knocked unconscious 2 times in his professional fights. 
  • Pat Barry has finished 3 professional MMA fights with low kicks.
  • Cro Cop's record for fights that go more than 2 rounds is 2-4-2 with those wins in 2002, and 2005.
  • Pat Barry is -155 for this fight. That means the odds pick him to win about 59% of the time.
  • Cro Cop is +125 for this fight. That means the odds pick him to win about 46% of the time.

Just the facts Ma'am.

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Good overall article but this part made me laugh…*Cro cop has success when he corners people and throw power shots at them. Rings have 4 corners. Octagons have 8. This makes it at least twice as hard to corner someone. *

What?!?!?!

"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."

Pain don't hurt...

by RolloTomasi on Jun 10, 2010 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, some fuzzy math going on there...

Inhale deep, like the words of my breath—I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death

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by Anthony Pace on Jun 10, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

How so? The octagon is twice as big as a ring according to cro cop, and the angle at which the corners are are not 90 degrees but instead 135 degrees. That gives you as the cornered party much more realestate to not get cornered and much more room to get out when cornered. Considering how it can not be a corner must be between 1-179 degrees , and the difference between 90 and 135 is 45 ( Which I shouldn’t have to say is more than half of the difference between 90 and 179) it follows that it is at LEAST twice as hard to corner someone in an octagon. Is my math still fuzzy?

by chadington on Jun 10, 2010 5:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm an English major

so, yes.

Inhale deep, like the words of my breath—I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death

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by Anthony Pace on Jun 10, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's much easier...

to corner someone when there are fewer corners. The more corners = more space to get away.

by chadington on Jun 10, 2010 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

don’t forget the right angles

those are very important as well

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by Zak Woods on Jun 10, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I knew what you were saying...

I was a math major.

Take ONE Karate class, if you're so into Karate...

by punchdrank on Jun 11, 2010 3:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Hoya Saxa

by David St. Martin on Jun 11, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tina Fey is one of the rare women who get hotter as they age. Have you seen a pic of her in the 90’s? She was kind of gross back then…..hot now though.

"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."

Pain don't hurt...

by RolloTomasi on Jun 11, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

indeed

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by Zak Woods on Jun 11, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd hit it

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Hoya Saxa

by David St. Martin on Jun 11, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

id caress it

Even a broken clock is right two times a day.

by Chris Toffer on Jun 12, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet that you feel pretty stupid now...

Cro Cop made Barry his bitch. Although I am not a Cro Cop fanyboy. I just was curious how you felt after going to all this trouble to type this out. lol

Take ONE Karate class, if you're so into Karate... - Charlie to Mac

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by punchdrank on Jun 13, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

broken hand and foot will do that...

"You're in this dark tunnel and you've got no way out, you're waiting for light, and you see that light, what do you do? What do you do? You start digging, and getting out. ... I've always beleived you stay in the tunnel and you keep digging when you expect no light. You have the same faith when you expect no light. You have the same beleif in what you're doing when you expect no light. ... It's dark and I'm going to dig through. My shovel is sharp and my pick is sharp and my will is outstanding." --Rod Marinelli 2008 (on his way to that sweet 16!)

by DrewMoney$$$ on Jun 14, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah,

Cro cop isn’t good anymore. That’s ok, great athletes fade. Doesn’t mean they don’t lose fans.

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by Zak Woods on Jun 10, 2010 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

wait for it.

I have seen 100’s of posts about how cro cop will destroy pat barry.

by chadington on Jun 10, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh

I certainly want him to. Not going to happen and I am cool with that. But I can hope…

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by Zak Woods on Jun 10, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate him. and his fan base. but it has made me money.

The irrational fan love of cro cop has netted me quite a bit of money over the years, picking when he’s going to lose. But for some reason i hate him, despite the fact that hes a nice dude, and has made me a lot of money. I can probably find someway to blame this on my lack of breastfeeding.

by chadington on Jun 10, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

like the JDS fight

when Cro Cop was still favored for some reason /sigh

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by Zak Woods on Jun 10, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

thankyou for this, i put $125 on barry at -115 when the odds first came out.

i agree with you reasoning. good post!

"You're in this dark tunnel and you've got no way out, you're waiting for light, and you see that light, what do you do? What do you do? You start digging, and getting out. ... I've always beleived you stay in the tunnel and you keep digging when you expect no light. You have the same faith when you expect no light. You have the same beleif in what you're doing when you expect no light. ... It's dark and I'm going to dig through. My shovel is sharp and my pick is sharp and my will is outstanding." --Rod Marinelli 2008 (on his way to that sweet 16!)

by DrewMoney$$$ on Jun 10, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

huh?

i feel like i’ve been the only one in the SBN family still saying Cro Cop will destroy Barry, as i’m firmly attached to his nutsack

Inhale deep, like the words of my breath—I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death

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by Anthony Pace on Jun 10, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a fun place to be in 2005. Ah, memories!

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by Zak Woods on Jun 10, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly, I agree. If Cro Cop’s nuts are vines then call me Tarzan. However, the sad fact is that Cro Cop is not the same fighter he was in Pride (duh) and his LHK has been reduced to a faded memory.

For chrissakes the last good LHK highlight we have is it grazing over the top of Eddie Sanchez’s head. Back in 2007. Early 2007. That’s three and a half years ago. The old Cro Cop is dead. Although I’m still hoping for a resurrection Saturday night =)

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by Nick Becker on Jun 11, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

dead-er than disco

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by David St. Martin on Jun 11, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't believe...

that I have seen a single person picking Cro Cop for this fight. And I have been checking BE, mmajunkie, this site, mma mania, and even sherdog… Where are these “100’s” of posts? I surely am not one of them. Just haven’t run acrossed any.

Take ONE Karate class, if you're so into Karate...

by punchdrank on Jun 11, 2010 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I only read mmaplayground , I actually havnt been on it since I got attacked by the whole community for stating the facts about cro cop

by chadington on Jun 11, 2010 8:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He looks so young in that pic.

"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."

Pain don't hurt...

by RolloTomasi on Jun 10, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pat Barry is a young Lion. I got Barry in the first with leg kicks. Cro Cop’s gonna need ACL care after this fight.

"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."

Pain don't hurt...

by RolloTomasi on Jun 10, 2010 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Cro Cop has been tested too much….

"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."

Pain don't hurt...

by RolloTomasi on Jun 10, 2010 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

MMA + fanboys

Fanboy-ism is endemic in MMA and definitely not limited to Cro Cop. After his PRIDE Open Weight GP win he was the most feared striker in the sport but has been on a downward spiral ever since due to injury, the transition to the cage or whatever. I guess its just a natural tendency to hold out hope that he can return to his dominating form and that he won’t succumb to age or deteriorating skills. It kinda reminds me of all of the Mike Tyson fanboys in boxing who couldn’t admit that he peaked with his destruction of Michael Spinks (that had more to do with Spinks being a natural light hvwght than anything else) and it was all downhill from there. Despite a ton of evidence to the contrary I have to convince some Tyson fanboy that he wouldn’t have KO’d Joe Louis and Muhammad Ali in the same night pretty much every week or so.

As far as the betting odds, keep in mind that they’re as much reflective of public perception as they are the linesmaker’s opinion about the relative strength and weaknesses of the fighter. The sports book just wants balanced action and price wagers accordingly, so they more accurately reflect how they think the public will bet more than trying to ‘predict’ the outcome. Based on recent form, Barry’s ‘true odds’ would probably be -250 or higher so IMO at least he still represents a good wagering value.

by The Savage Science on Jun 11, 2010 2:54 AM EDT reply actions  

I’ll bet you $20 he has a sick duster at home…

by chadington on Jun 11, 2010 8:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

I’ll bet you $40 he has no idea what vagina smells like.

"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."

Pain don't hurt...

by RolloTomasi on Jun 11, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

POWER GLOVE!!!

Man, this dude and Nintendo! What are the other two things from?

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by Lil Pinga on Jun 11, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

this guy is simply...awesome

This picture makes this statement:

I don’t need pussy, FUCK YOU.

by Body Triangle on Jun 11, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

wasn't it pretty

obvious in the replay that he was poked in the eye against Dos Santos?

by blueballlefty on Jun 11, 2010 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

how many fighters have quit from an eye poke?

by chadington on Jun 11, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

12

Even a broken clock is right two times a day.

by Chris Toffer on Jun 12, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, isnt somebody feeling stupid

Id like to be the first to say “nana booboo, stick your head in poopoo. Crocop fans are better than you dude”.

That’s whatcha get for havin a name like chadington!

Even a broken clock is right two times a day.

by Chris Toffer on Jun 13, 2010 12:16 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

If I had predicted Cro Cop in the 3rd by RNC I would have been laughed off the internet.

"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."

Pain don't hurt...

by RolloTomasi on Jun 13, 2010 12:37 AM EDT reply actions  

lol

that’s what makes this shit fun!

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by Zak Woods on Jun 13, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

mma is the greatest sport ever

And shit like that is why

Even a broken clock is right two times a day.

by Chris Toffer on Jun 13, 2010 1:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Cro Cop vs Big Nog the UFC edition

Make it happen Joe Silva.

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Pain don't hurt...

by RolloTomasi on Jun 16, 2010 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

pweeeeeease

Even a broken clock is right two times a day.

by Chris Toffer on Jun 17, 2010 2:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

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