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Shane Carwin & MMA Media Entitlement

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By now, I'm sure you all have noticed the little Snowden/Carwin spat going on all over the interwebz. I wanted to write a piece about this whole situation. You guys should already know how I feel about all the "BE" boys(Snowden, Uncle Luke, etc.). So, I'm going to try to "let that sleeping dog lie", and just stick to the real issue here. How much is the MMA media entitled to?

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I want to address the issue of what the media is entitled to, in terms of direct access to the fighters/promoters and information(salaries, gossip, etc.).In my opinion the MMA media is not entitled to anything. The sport is the "dog", and the media is the "tail". You guys seem to forget who's "wagging" who. The sport of MMA has survived and thrived for the vast majority of it's history without mainstream media backing (barely any media at all, actually).The sport didn't and still doesn't need writers like Snowden, Iole, or Meltzer to provide hype for it. On the contrary, the media tried to bury this sport only a few years ago, only to have it rise from the ashes through the sheer willpower(and a little money) of Dana White, Frank and Lorenzo Fertitta, Nobuyuki Sakakibara, and most importantly, a (relatively) small, though loyal legion of fans around the globe, who kept the sports pulse going mostly through word-of-mouth. This great sport is a self-made success story, and you should feel honored to be a part it.

This sport was around (in various forms) before any of us got here, it will be here(in some form) when we leave. If you want to cover this sport because you have a genuine passion for following it, then, great. But, how dare you attack a fighter who holds a full-time job as an engineer, has a family to watch over, is a volunteer wrestling coach for a local Division-I university, and along with all that, also happens to be training for the biggest fight of his life against BROCKLESNAR for the UFC Heavyweight Championship, for refusing to pander to your every beck and call.  I, for one, applaud this man for choosing to fulfill his real life responsibilities. Instead of spending three months traveling around, answering the same obnoxious, ridiculous, and repetitive questions that all the wannabe "MMA know-it-alls"in the media continue to ask every fighter, before every fight.The fighters, above the media nad even the promoters are the "heart and soul" of this sport, and deserve more respect than what you're giving.

In conclusion, I want to make clear the intention of this write-up(if it wasn't clear already). My intention is not to say we don't want you to cover our sport and be a part of it. Just that we all, media and fans, need to know our place. We are spectators, this is real life for these fighters. The consequences of these decisions don't personally effect us either way. Therefore, some of us like to try to pressure fighters into sacrificing their non-MMA responsibilities, their real lives,  to appease our lust for access and information. These fighters put their lives on the line for our entertainment. Don't they deserve a little more reverence? 

 

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Are the media criticisms of Shane CarwIn appropriate?
Yes. we are entitled because we pay their salaries
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No. fans/writers should know where to draw the line.
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Half the stuff these guys say is boring/repetitive anyway so who cares really? I’m just as capable of discussing the fight without the brilliant insights of “Well, it’s going to be a WAR I can tell you that.”

Plus, MMA website are going to cover fights regardless of access. Have these guys do interviews with mainstream media outlets (ESPN) to gain some traction with a larger sports audience and then let them talk to who they feel like.

by TMadeBurner on Jun 22, 2010 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

I mean you have to work to get access and if a fighter doesn’t want to give access that’s his prerogative. Who cares really.

The more interesting thing is that he’s not getting paid a lot and is using media interviews as leverage

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by Zak Woods on Jun 22, 2010 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Maybe someone can enlighten me a little bit on the topic of “undisclosed pay” or “locker room bonuses”. How prevalent is this practice for the UFC? I have a hard time believing some of these guys fight for what their listed salaries are.

by TMadeBurner on Jun 22, 2010 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

They exist but they aren’t contractual like PPV shares or base salary that some athletic commissions report.

They are typically handed out for doing a good job (a) fighting well (b) selling the fight. What makes Carwin’s case interesting is that the locker room bonus might be a drop in the pan compared to the PPV bonus as many expect this card to do over a million buys.

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by Zak Woods on Jun 22, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good post

A fighter has only two jobs to complete:
1. Train for the fight
2. Win
It’s the job of the promotion, whether it be the UFC, Strikeforce or whoever to hype said fight. Unless a fighter signs a contract that specifically states they are getting paid for and are expected to conduct interviews with the media then the only hype they need provide is in the cage. Of course there’s benefits to getting your name out there but in Shane’s case he’s stated his opinion and I can see his point.
I’m not trying to stir up old shit but yeah, sites like BE are lucky to be doing what they’re doing since they have no real relevancy in this sport at all.
Most of the guys I work with watch MMA, but to them MMA = UFC which I think is a pretty accurate picture of the average, run of the mill fan. When I told the guys at work the story of my little scuffle with the BE boys none of them had any idea that they could go to a site other than UFC.com for MMA news.

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by Kidnutcase on Jun 22, 2010 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

isn’t getting paid for fighting part of a fighter’s job?

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by Zak Woods on Jun 22, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, I think that’s optional…..maybe the WEC undercard could shed some light on that….

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by Kidnutcase on Jun 22, 2010 6:03 PM EDT reply actions  

brevity is the soul of wit

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by David St. Martin on Jun 22, 2010 6:23 PM EDT reply actions  

i dont really have beef with the writers from BE

I understand that anyone can get their mma news from one of a 1000 sites. You need something unique. WKR uses hilarity. BE uses daily original opinion pieces.

With that said… daily opinion pieces can be hard tocome up with. Often you get what I like to call “a stretch”. Some writer go’s blah blah let’s exagerate something and come to unprovable conclusions for some hits blah blah. Its atough job man.

My beef is with any site, BE included, that has editors SOLELY to ban people. Its… pathetic.

Well that had nuthin to do with anything and was right after a nice post of saying brevity is brilliance sooooo….

Shane carwin can do whatever the fuck he wants. If its not in his contract, nobody has a right to bitcjH

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by Chris Toffer on Jun 22, 2010 11:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

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