My point is Dana set up this whole thing to rub his dick in the face of his hometown that he was “ran from” at the expense of the legitimacy of the sport and I’m happy it backfired.

The LW championship took 2nd fiddle to a fucking boxer fighting in MMA. And it brought no new eyeballs.

MMA looked like a JOKE with that fat tub out there. And for what? Not more buys (proof will be out soon), damn sure not a bigger gate. No, it was just so Dana could “beat boxing” in his own hometown.

Had this show had compelling fights, it would’ve done better

And no, BJ/Edgar II was not a compelling fight.

His “return” was lame. It was like that nerd who sets up that big party for all the cool kids and then no one shows up and the party sucks.

James Toney isn’t a boxer. He’s fat and old. He trolled all the MMA tards who get caught up in trying to prove that MMA is mainstream. And they all bought it. If you think Toney believed anything he said, then I don’t know what to say about you. Anyone who holds this up as a victory for “MMA” is a fool, at best. There are REAL boxers (kermit cintron, etc) who would come to MMA if the price was right. We’ll see if they get an offer.

The other fights (outside of the Joe Lauzon fight) were bland at best.

I don’t expect every PPV to be anything. If you notice, I didn’t talk about the actual “fights” until just now. I was talking about the spectacle of it.

And at least you could’ve said “Well, the UFC made money”, but they didn’t. Not attendance, not buyrate. This event had NO buzz. Boxing fans didn’t care. The only people who cared about this BS “boxing vs MMA” were the Sherdog types who buy into the burning desire to legitimize MMA and take self-pleasure with every “victory”.

We had a GREAT run of cards from UFC 114 til now and this one didn’t have to be a “stinker”, but Dana put all his eggs in the boxing vs MMA basket.

Entertainment wise – One good fight (that was short) and couple decent ones and the rest were pedestrian

Future-wise – the best LW draw isn’t the champ, the current champ isn’t compelling, the current number 1 contender isn’t either, they got the WORST matchup out of the 4 possible ones, due to BJ losing two in a row, he will never be in a title fight unless the champ isn’t Frankie and he’s still 3 wins away from a title shot,

Gatewise – heavily papered by all accounts and still not a sellout

Ratingwise – lowest countdown in AGES

Buyratewise – just a prediction, but this will do worse than BJ/Diego

Credibilitywise – UFC and MMA looked like a joke with James Toney in a Semi-main and promoted over their title fight. Dana saying “Toney talked himself into a fight” does nothing but harm the public perception of MMA as not a sport and just cagefighting

I mean on a scale of 1-10, this event was like a 3. Saving graces being no major injuries and the Joe Lauzon fight.

P.S. I don’t take “little swipes” and if I wanted to “swipe” at Dana, I would’ve.

I enjoyed the fights. The guys I were with did as well, so whatever. We all got a great laugh out of Toney’s showing and had a great time.

Im sorry, I hate and can’t stand people who bitch about fights, and say a card sucks before it even starts. But, if you thought that was an entertaining night of fights then you might be very easy to please, or have not watch a lot of fights.

For all the bitching and moaning you read from MMA writers online about hordes of 75 IQ barbarians demanding bloodsport and Ultimate KO’s, many of them are just as guilty (if not moreso) by promulgating things like “Gray Maynard is boring,” or “Frankie Edgar is not an interesting champion,” or “Boy, Brock Lesnar better hope he can lay and pray on Cain or he’s fucked!”

How about we get behind an obvious trend in successful fighters? I understand it wouldn’t be wildly popular, but it just might make the sport better and more successful if we could break down grappling matches and great scrambles, rather than whining about how there isn’t any standup or position sacrifice to go for a submission.

With BJ Penn in the main event, with Randy co-maining, with several local boys, with a title fight, with the supposed big draw of “Boxing vs MMA”

It certainly is lackluster. That number is helped by the absurdly high prices of tickets.

LOL @ “run of the mill blogger”. Whatever ya say bruh.

Of course PPV sales drive the industry and when the numbers come in, you’ll see.

Also, the gate IS an indicator of success, otherwise why charge admission? Also, I didn’t base the “success” on the attendance only. If you READ, you’ll see a post where I outlined several factors.

And why wouldn’t I consider myself a blogger? This is a blogging site full of blogging bloggers. I, however, am not “run of the mill” anything.

The only people who wanted to see that fight were Dana and fanboys who feel the need to validate that MMA is a better sport. The mainstream media didn’t really care. Yea they were on ESPN, but it was barebones coverage especially compared to Herschel Walker fighting or any of the Lesnar fights. For such a “big event” it had less coverage than Chael/Anderson laat month.

By who’s account was the Edgar fight “good”. I’m going by feedback on several websites as well as people reporting on the event.

BJ will never get a shot as long as Edgar is champ unless he wins 4 or 5 in a row and BJ just doesn’t have the focus for that. IF Maynard wins, BJ is still 2 or 3 wins away. That’s another 18 months.

Canada is a foreign country to the UFC’s home base. Can you be serious. The main event was the title rematch (with two non-drawing fighters) and co-main was Koscheck vs Daley (two more non-draws). Kimbo was not a draw at this point and had been exposed. No one was paying to see Kimbo. And they STILL did a 3 million gate (after conversion) and over 500K buyrate with no draws. That PPV was a success. This one with a big draw in BJ, a good draw in Randy, a so-called compelling freakshow fight, was not a “success”.

Again, you seem to fail to realize that the ratings aren’t the sole indicator of buyrate success. That’s not what I’m saying. UFC 111 had GSP, it was going to draw regardless.

Lackluster does not mean dull as in boring. The dull in the definition of lackluster refers to SHINE. I’m sorry you need to simplify things down to process them. Lackluster meaning lacking of luster, of interest, of charm. Doesn’t mean it was boring.